Jonathan Turley on Horowitz report
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ny_quantХорошее summary для тех, кто не собирается читать все 476 страниц. В общем, получается, что товарищи справа, которые, с самого начала, как бы это помягче, скептически относились к роли ФБР в расследовании кампании Трампа, были в основном правы. Они были неправы в том, что расследование было с самого начала незаконным (о чем радостно трубит пресса), но дальше произошла длинная серия "ошибок". А главный подследственный, Page, оказался агентом ЦРУ, о чем ФБР было сообщено, но они об этом почему-то умолчали когда обращались за FISA warrants.
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/473709-horowitz-report-is-damning-for-the-fbi-and-unsettling-for-the-rest-of-us
From the outset, the Justice Department failed to interview several key individuals or vet critical information and sources in the Steele dossier. Justice Department officials insisted to Horowitz that they choose not to interview campaign officials because they were unsure if the campaign was compromised and did not want to tip off the Russians. However, the inspector general report says the Russians were directly told about the allegations repeatedly by then CIA Director John Brennan and, ultimately, President Obama. So the Russians were informed, but no one contacted the Trump campaign so as not to inform the Russians? Meanwhile, the allegations quickly fell apart. Horowitz details how all of the evidence proved exculpatory of any collusion or conspiracy with the Russians.
Even worse, another agency that appears to be the CIA told the FBI that Page was actually working for the agency in Russia as an “operational contact” gathering intelligence. The FBI was told this repeatedly, yet it never reported it to the FISA court approving the secret investigation of Page. His claim to have worked with the federal government was widely dismissed. Worse yet, Horowitz found that investigators and the Justice Department concluded there was no probable cause on Page to support its FISA investigation. That is when there was an intervention from the top of the FBI, ordering investigators to look at the Steele dossier funded by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign instead.
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/473709-horowitz-report-is-damning-for-the-fbi-and-unsettling-for-the-rest-of-us
From the outset, the Justice Department failed to interview several key individuals or vet critical information and sources in the Steele dossier. Justice Department officials insisted to Horowitz that they choose not to interview campaign officials because they were unsure if the campaign was compromised and did not want to tip off the Russians. However, the inspector general report says the Russians were directly told about the allegations repeatedly by then CIA Director John Brennan and, ultimately, President Obama. So the Russians were informed, but no one contacted the Trump campaign so as not to inform the Russians? Meanwhile, the allegations quickly fell apart. Horowitz details how all of the evidence proved exculpatory of any collusion or conspiracy with the Russians.
Even worse, another agency that appears to be the CIA told the FBI that Page was actually working for the agency in Russia as an “operational contact” gathering intelligence. The FBI was told this repeatedly, yet it never reported it to the FISA court approving the secret investigation of Page. His claim to have worked with the federal government was widely dismissed. Worse yet, Horowitz found that investigators and the Justice Department concluded there was no probable cause on Page to support its FISA investigation. That is when there was an intervention from the top of the FBI, ordering investigators to look at the Steele dossier funded by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign instead.
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Date: 2019-12-11 11:02 pm (UTC)Конечно обосралось. Целью расследования было завалить Трампа и она не была достигнута, несмотря на допущенные "ошибки", о которых теперь знают все.
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Date: 2019-12-12 12:12 am (UTC)Целью расследования было завалить Трампа
Если под "завалить Трампа" вы имеете в виду не допустить его победы на выборах, то для этого эффективнее всего было бы сообщить, прямо или с помощью утечек в прессу, о существовании самого расследования до выборов. ФБР не сделало этого в случае Трампа, но сделало в случае Клинтон.
Я, впрочем, не считаю и что Коми пытался завалить Клинтон. Как и в случае начала расследования Трампа, ФБР действовало по необходимости.
Если же вы имеете в виду "посадить Трампа в тюрьму" или что-то подобное, то, опять-таки, это было бы сделать куда проще, если бы он не был президентом и не назначал своих людей на руководящие должности в DOJ. Для чего как раз и стоило объявить о расследовании до выборов.
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Date: 2019-12-12 12:55 am (UTC)Good point. Но простота это только одна сторона дела. Другая - риск. That could backfire in more ways than one.
Под завалить я имел в виду нарыть такой компромат, который уже можно было бы слить в прессу с гарантированным результатом.
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