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Date: 2022-12-16 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moneo.livejournal.com
Lomborg is not a climate scientist or economist and has published little or no peer-reviewed research on environmental or climate policy. His extensive and extensively documented, errors and misrepresentations, which are aimed at a lay audience, "follow a general pattern" of minimizing the need to cut carbon emissions.

vOv

Date: 2022-12-16 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oldkettle.livejournal.com
You are shooting the messenger

Date: 2022-12-16 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moneo.livejournal.com
No, I'm performing a smell test. This dude smells hella rotten.

Date: 2022-12-16 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com
You need to have your nose looked at.

Date: 2022-12-16 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com
И кстати нагуглил первоисточник: https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Bjorn_Lomborg#cite_note-8
Зря вы туда ходите, это таки пидарасы в плохом смысле.

Ссылка на http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2010/11/22/scientists-debunk-lomborg/
не работает.

Date: 2022-12-17 09:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moneo.livejournal.com
А вы им задонатьте, чтобы у них была возможность постоянно проверять ссылки на тухлость :) Забейте название в гугл, найдете зеркало.

Date: 2022-12-17 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com

Кстати, эти люди, конкретно Joe Romm, - платный пропагандон за алармизм, но это наверное хорошо и правильно, да?

Date: 2022-12-16 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oldkettle.livejournal.com
what I meant was
He is not the author of the article in Lancet, is he? If you disagree with the article - by all means, show the world your workings. But he just linked to it and extracted a tiny bit, attacking him is shooting the messenger by definition.

Date: 2022-12-17 09:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moneo.livejournal.com
He's a magpie. He picks up shiny things and adds them to his hoard. Only he's a magpie with an agenda: to him, the shiny things are bits of legitimate research that can be used to attack the scientific consensus on climate.

Date: 2022-12-17 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oldkettle.livejournal.com
As ХЭБ explained very clearly on multiple occasions, there is a not so subtle difference between scientific consensus on the fact of warming, still relatively scientific projections of the possible extent of the warming and absolutely political and completely anti-scientific plans of dealing with the warming. The reference above does not question close to your heart facts but points at another reason the narrative supporting planned actions is wrong. And you are shooting the messenger.

Date: 2022-12-17 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com

That's another lie that climate alarmist activists sold you. In fact, there is no consensus on climate other than it will be warmer. And he is a part of this consensus.

Date: 2022-12-16 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com
You know who else is not a climate scientist or economist and has published little or no peer-reviewed research on environmental or climate policy?

George Monbiot и Malcolm Gladwell все остальные левые алармисты-пропагандоны. Errors and misrepresentations my ass.

Date: 2022-12-16 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moneo.livejournal.com
Do you mean to say that there's bad actors on both sides? Wow! Mind = blown.

Now, what is it that *good* actors are saying? :)

Date: 2022-12-16 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com
Бинарная картина мира редко имеет отношение к реальности. Здесь то же самое.

Есть паникеры и есть злонамеренные отрицатели. Между ними целый спектр людей с более или менее разумными взглядами. Ломборг как раз один из *good* actors. He understands climate science well enough, much better than morons on the extremes, and he sticks to reality.

Date: 2022-12-17 09:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moneo.livejournal.com
Ломборг - активист на зарплате как минимум у инвесторов в углеводороды. Что в этом хорошего, я не понимаю абсолютно.

Date: 2022-12-17 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com

Я не знаю кто ему платит зарплату, по моему Евросоюз, могу ошибаться, но это совершенно неважно. Важно что он говорит.

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