Date: 2019-10-12 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nefedor.livejournal.com

That’s a wrong question. The right one is: why should you? ;)

Date: 2019-10-12 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misha-b.livejournal.com
The more property I have, the more benefit I derive from the government and laws protecting my property. I think it is fair that a percentage of that should go to support the functioning of the law system, etc.

Notice that this benefit is tied to the amount of property, not the income.

Date: 2019-10-12 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com
Я уже заплатил государству за все услуги когда с меня взяли income tax по максимальной ставке. Из того что осталось я купил брусок золота и продолжил его в сейф в банке, которому я и плачу за рент и охрану моего золота. Могу даже застраховать. А от государства мне ничего больше в связи с этой покупкой не надо.

Date: 2019-10-12 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misha-b.livejournal.com
The idea would be to _replace_ the income tax with wealth tax.
I am not in favor of the Warren's plan, it seems too arbitrary.
Edited Date: 2019-10-12 03:47 pm (UTC)

Date: 2019-10-12 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com
Это чья идея? Уж точно не Уоррен. Так что я не понимаю при чем здесь это.

Но уж раз начали, то скажу, что идея мне кажется ещё худшей, чем всё остальное поскольку такой подход поощряет потребление и наказывает за сбережения.

Date: 2019-10-12 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misha-b.livejournal.com

This is the real wealth tax idea. Not sure who came up with it first.

> поощряет потребление и наказывает за сбережения.

I don't see anything wrong with it. We want rich people to invest in areas with maximum return. If you have a ton of gold in a vault, it does not help anyone do anything productive.

Notice that charitable endowments are required by law to spend certain percentage of their assets.

Date: 2019-10-13 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com
// This is the real wealth tax idea

What a great idea. Why would anyone want to own a house and pay extra taxes under such a law? Our own anything fit that matter?

// I don't see anything wrong with it.

That don't meant there ain't nothing wrong. If all my property is taxes I'd want no property at all. I'd rather spend all my money on food, drink out vacation rather than endlessly subsidize the government.

Date: 2019-10-13 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misha-b.livejournal.com
> Why would anyone want to own a house and pay extra taxes under such a law? Our own anything fit that matter?

But you are already paying a wealth tax on your house. It is called a property tax. Are you arguing for abolishing those?

Date: 2019-10-13 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com
I would if i could but regardless wealth tax will be in addition, not instead of.

Date: 2019-10-14 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misha-b.livejournal.com
The idea is to replace all taxes with the wealth tax. Of course, this is not the reality of it.

Date: 2019-10-12 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
плюс брусок золота.

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