preexisting conditions
May. 7th, 2017 06:10 pmНесмотря на истерику слева, спикер Райан утверждает, что требование страховать людей с preexisting conditions никуда не делось:
"Under this bill, no matter what, you cannot be denied coverage if you have a preexisting condition," Ryan said. "And under this bill, you cannot only not be denied coverage."
"But you can charge people more," Stephanopoulos interjected.
"Let me finish my point," Ryan said. "You can't charge people more if they keep continuous coverage. The key of having a continuous coverage provision is to make sure that people stay covered and they move from one plan to the next if they want to. It's kind of like waiting until your house is on fire to then buy your homeowner's insurance. You want to make sure that people stay covered to keep the cost down."
Как-то не чувствую драмы. Ну и чтоб два раза не вставать, смотрите как непринужденно Stephanopoulos назвал людей, зарабатывающих больше 200,000 миллионерами.
The ABC anchor said the AHCA cuts $900 million in taxes for individuals who earn over $200,000 annually, while also cutting $1 trillion in subsidies for Medicaid.
"Most of benefits go to millionaires," Stephanopoulos said.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/most-benefits-millionaires-george-stephanopoulos-163716047.html
"Under this bill, no matter what, you cannot be denied coverage if you have a preexisting condition," Ryan said. "And under this bill, you cannot only not be denied coverage."
"But you can charge people more," Stephanopoulos interjected.
"Let me finish my point," Ryan said. "You can't charge people more if they keep continuous coverage. The key of having a continuous coverage provision is to make sure that people stay covered and they move from one plan to the next if they want to. It's kind of like waiting until your house is on fire to then buy your homeowner's insurance. You want to make sure that people stay covered to keep the cost down."
Как-то не чувствую драмы. Ну и чтоб два раза не вставать, смотрите как непринужденно Stephanopoulos назвал людей, зарабатывающих больше 200,000 миллионерами.
The ABC anchor said the AHCA cuts $900 million in taxes for individuals who earn over $200,000 annually, while also cutting $1 trillion in subsidies for Medicaid.
"Most of benefits go to millionaires," Stephanopoulos said.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/most-benefits-millionaires-george-stephanopoulos-163716047.html
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Date: 2017-05-07 10:57 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-05-07 11:03 pm (UTC)Только речь не о доме. То есть Райан говорит, что вот ты не имел страховки (по любой причине), а теперь уже поздно, ложись и умирай. Как-то это с "culture of life" не очень хорошо сочетается, мне кажется.
А чтобы здоровые люди покупали страховку, ведь и были эти штрафы при Obamacare.
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Date: 2017-05-07 11:11 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-05-07 11:39 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-05-08 12:29 am (UTC)это ж забавно, чтобы остальные платили за то, за что не хотите платить вы
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Date: 2017-05-07 11:54 pm (UTC)Он не говорит ложись и умирай. Он говорит no matter what, you cannot be denied coverage if you have a preexisting condition
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Date: 2017-05-07 11:59 pm (UTC)no matter what, you cannot be denied coverage if you have a preexisting condition
Sure, you have access! And if, given your preexisting condition, the cost of insurance is more than you can pay... Well, you still have access.
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Date: 2017-05-08 02:25 pm (UTC)Что это такое за culture of life?
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Date: 2017-05-08 03:57 pm (UTC)The phrase "culture of life" is a term used in discussion of moral theology, especially that of the Catholic Church. Its proponents describe it as a way of life based upon the theological truth that human life at all stages from conception through natural death is sacred.
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Date: 2017-05-08 04:17 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2017-05-08 12:19 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-05-08 01:39 am (UTC)Я не вижу никакой дилеммы. You keep your end of the deal and the insurers, by law, we'll have to keep their.
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Date: 2017-05-08 02:40 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2017-05-08 03:49 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2017-05-08 01:37 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-05-08 01:49 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-05-08 02:52 am (UTC)Потому что это нечестно, что у некоторых нет денег на лечение.
Вот и Яков со мной согласен
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Date: 2017-05-08 04:33 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-05-08 01:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-05-08 05:47 pm (UTC)>200к, лет за 10-15 трудно не накопить миллиона. Другое дело, что миллион по нашим временам не очень много, но это отдельный вопрос.
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Date: 2017-05-08 02:31 pm (UTC)Я получаю сильно больше 200, но совсем не миллионер пока. И вокруг меня такие же изобилуют. Ибо много расходов, это раз, а во-вторых, нужно довольно долго получать такие суммы чтобы скопить миллион.
Скажем, получаете вы 300К. После налогов, расходов, детей, ипотеки, машин, отпусков от этого в лучшем случае остаётся сотня. То есть, миллион будет копиться лет 10 - это в лучшем случае. В реальности - дольше.
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Date: 2017-05-08 03:03 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2017-05-08 05:49 pm (UTC)Про лет десять согласен. Никто же не говорит, что все, получающие такуя зарплату миллионеры.
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Date: 2017-05-09 09:27 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-05-09 01:13 pm (UTC)