The art of fact-checking
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ny_quantCLAIM: Greta Thunberg recently deleted a tweet she posted in 2018 in which she said that the world will end in 2023.
AP’S ASSESSMENT: Missing context. While Thunberg did delete a 2018 tweet about the urgency of addressing climate change, she did not say the world would end in 2023. Her tweet included a quote from an article that said an influential scientist warned climate change “will wipe out all humanity” unless fossil fuel use was ended “over the next five years.” Further complicating the issue, that article incorrectly summarized the scientist’s speech. He never made such comments.
...Thunberg never said the world was set to end in 2023. The young activist was quoting an article that was paraphrasing a speech by a Harvard University professor of atmospheric chemistry. The scientist said the world had limited time to act to reverse the disappearance of floating ice volume in the Arctic or there would be drastic consequences, not that the world would end in five years.
The article Thunberg was quoting has since been deleted, but it was published by the site Grit Post in February 2018 with the headline: “Top Climate Scientist: Humans Will Go Extinct if We Don’t Fix Climate Change by 2023,” according to an archived version of the web page. The first line of the story stated: “A top climate scientist is warning that climate change will wipe out all of humanity unless we stop using fossil fuels over the next five years.”
Forbes quoted Anderson as saying: “The chance that there will be any permanent ice left in the Arctic after 2022 is essentially zero.”
У снопса есть скриншот того твита и сходный анализ.
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Date: 2023-03-22 06:19 pm (UTC)А сколько ей лет было тогда, 15?
> in support of her stupid crusade
Кто тебя обманул, что stupid?
> there is nothing to see there
Само по себе это никто не обсуждал, пока ты не ворвался. Вопрос поставлен о качестве фактчека.
> she's done nothing wrong
Насынг - это ты передёрнул, по своему обыкновению. Но есть разница между искренним заблуждением и намеренным обманом.
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Date: 2023-03-22 08:56 pm (UTC)Your language can't hurt me. You can try but you won't be successful.
> А сколько ей лет было тогда, 15?
I couldn't care effing less about her age at the time. You are not arguing that it was BS? I will take it.
> Кто тебя обманул, что stupid?
Should I not believe my lying eyes? Crusades are hardly ever smart, but this specific one has profound effect on impressionable idiots across the globe which is not helping. I don't like paying in both monetary and consequential terms for terrible requests these people are making and terrible decisions being made by western governments in response. I have no idea what kind of taxes you pay. Mine are non-trivial and I work extremely hard, I hate waste and I hate the future these bastards are preparing for my kids.
> Само по себе это никто не обсуждал, пока ты не ворвался. Вопрос поставлен о качестве фактчека.
Discussing a factcheck without discussing facts is not always a useful exercise. But I am not going to ask your permission to discuss whatever I find appropriate in this blog - you are not the owner.
>Насынг - это ты передёрнул, по своему обыкновению.
if you started (or ended) your original post by "yeah, she screwed up but she was just a kid" I wouldn't bother replying. But you didn't. So it was as good as "nothing".
I also suspect that you are know idioms including "nothing to see" but pretend to take it at face value.
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Date: 2023-03-23 08:14 am (UTC)Забаньте меня, пожалуйста. Толку от этих разговоров не будет. Вы мне неприятны, а я вам.
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Date: 2023-03-23 01:50 pm (UTC)Вы лично мне не неприятны, в честь чего, я ничего о Вас не знаю. Я категорически не согласен с некоторыми высказываниями, но это совершенно другое дело. Извините, иногда это может проявляться как подначивание.
Я никого не банил ни разу, насколько я помню.