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[ny_quant]

A trending story that claims Hillary Clinton won a total of 57 counties in the presidential election is untrue. The Associated Press finds that Clinton won 487 counties nationwide, compared with 2,626 for President-elect Donald Trump.

It also falsely claimed that Clinton outpaced Trump by more than 2 million votes in the five counties that comprise New York City, which the story said accounted for the entirety of her lead in the national popular vote. An AP count finds that Clinton beat Trump by roughly 1.5 million votes in New York City. Nationwide, Clinton holds a popular vote lead of more than 2 million. (Заодно вспомнилось старая шутка про Rudi Giuliani: the mayor didn't say "Fuck you!", he said "Up yours!".)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trending-story-clinton-won-just-57-counties-untrue-134114123--election.html

Вместе с Чикаго, Бостоном и Филадельфией уж наверняка наберётся 2 миллиона.

И вот тут я попадаю в конфликт с самим собой.  Потому что с одной стороны я себя куда скорее ассоциирую с прибрежными элитами и большими городами проголосовавшими за Хилари, чем с остальной страной. А с другой стороны мне бы казалось очень неправильным если бы президент побеждал на выборах только за счёт большого преимущества в больших городах и культурных центрах. Притом, что абстрактно-теоретически я за прямое голосование, а не нашу странную систему выборщиков, я вдруг понял, что в ней есть гораздо больше смысла, чем я думал раньше.

Comments

[oroszlan.livejournal.com]

i dont get what you (and NYT) are trying to say here, from mathematical point of view.

say Hillary won X votes. Trump - Y. X>Y. you cant know for sure which exactly votes out of X were "those that made it possible for X to exceed Y". it could be ANY of X. maybe some dude from NYC, maybe some dude in Iowa. no one knows. one of commenters pointed out that california alone had a larger Clinton lead than country's lead - so if we wanted we could just say "its because of california".

i understand your point that if large cities on average voted more for Hillary and rest of country for Trump - there is a "disagreement" there.

[ny-quant.livejournal.com]

The point is certainly not mathematical.

[oroszlan.livejournal.com]

call it metaphysical for all i care :) anti-pepsi-archeological.

my point is - 5 people voted for Vasya. 4 for Katya
it is strange to speculate which of the 5 "made the difference" for Vasya without more information. all of them.
unless you start digging deeper and find the one that was kinda hesitating but then chose Vasya.

[ny-quant.livejournal.com]

I hear you.