Date: 2016-11-22 02:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 1master.livejournal.com
Какой-то мудак с сотоварищами несет ахинею. Какое это имеет отношение к Трампу то?

Date: 2016-11-22 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whocares1970.livejournal.com
Вот именно. А при Обаме, если помните, черные стали играть в такую игру - ударить белого и смыться. И еще снять на телефон. А потом вообще пошли дела с BLM. И?

Date: 2016-11-22 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com

Сам в шляпе -  это прекрасный аргумент. Но это не ко мне, я за Обаму не голосовал, и за Хиллари тоже.

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Date: 2016-11-22 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stan podolski (from livejournal.com)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subset

Date: 2016-11-22 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com

Точно без вики было никак?


Of course it's a subset. The question is, what kind of subset it is.

Date: 2016-11-22 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] signamax.livejournal.com
close to zero

what it has to do with T?

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Date: 2016-11-22 03:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yankel.livejournal.com
ККК Рейгана поддерживал оба раза, несмотря на то, что тот их нахуй посылал.
И что дальше?

Date: 2016-11-22 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com

А Трамп их послал?

Date: 2016-11-22 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rezoner.livejournal.com
Вы ведь правда умеете пользоваться гуглом? Набираете trump denouncing kkk support, и получаете все 244,000 результатов.

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Date: 2016-11-22 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yankel.livejournal.com
Кого? Вот этих 200 дегенератов?
Вы серьезно думаете, что он должен реагировать на них?
Это худшее, что можно придумать, привлекать хоть как то к ним внимание.

Насчет придурка Дюка Трамп высказывался несколько раз на протяжении последних 20 лет.

Учитывая влияние Дюка и Спенсера, которое стремится к нулю, реагировать на них вообще как то западло.

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Date: 2016-11-22 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lapot.livejournal.com
Зависит от того, сколько там народу состоит, насколько они влиятельны, насколько широка поддержка. Если к.-то маргинальная фигня на 2-3 сотни придурков, то никакого смысла обращать на них внимание (Трампу) вобще нет, много чести для каждой дворовой шавки получить публичную оценку от избраного Президента США. Игнор в таких делах - лучшая политика.

В отличие от ККК, организации старой, имеющей громкую историю, хорошо и широко всем известной.

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Date: 2016-11-22 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_moss/
Мне кажется, не надо распространять такого рода манипуляции.

Date: 2016-11-22 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com
В смысле? Видео это видео. Какие манипуляции?

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Date: 2016-11-22 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aka-human.livejournal.com
Вообщем обвинения Трампа и Беннона в поддержке расистов и антисемитов на уровне "одна баба сказала". Ни одного свидетельства, только слухи, да обвинения левой прессы, основанные на ими же распускаемых слухах. Фу, как мелко.

Date: 2016-11-22 04:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com
Я же привел цитату выше.

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Date: 2016-11-22 06:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com
Комментарии еще только начал читать. Вам еще не сказали, что Спенсер отлично потролил левых и lügenpresse?

Date: 2016-11-22 01:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eta-ta.livejournal.com
не судите по себе, Яков. не надо проецировать приёмы левых на нормальных людей

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Date: 2016-11-22 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com
Я сам еще не все прочёл, но пока вроде нет.

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Date: 2016-11-22 01:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dmitry kislitsyn (from livejournal.com)
Так смешно мизинчик отставляет на 1:15, когда говорит что "быть белым - значит быть крестоносцем..."

Date: 2016-11-22 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slavka.livejournal.com
скажите, а эти ужасные кошмарные нацисты уже кого-то побили? пожгли машины?

у Вас есть к чему докопаться кроме иx неxорошиx взглядов и того, что они говорят?

Date: 2016-11-22 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com
Обязательно надо ждать пока они начнут бить и жечь? История ничему не учит, да? Или думаете, что начнут не с вас?

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Date: 2016-11-23 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nedosionist.livejournal.com
А как Вы вообще относитесь к вменению ассоциативной вины как полемическому приему? (X плохой, Y от него не отмежевывается, значит Y такой же)

В этой публичной дискуссии/кампании клинтоновцы поначалу ассоциировали Джеба с Трампом и Крузом; Трампа с Бэнноном и Дюком; Бэннона со Спенсером, Мило и Горовицем, этих с антисемитами и неонацистами; мол, поэтому Трамп - неонацист и антисемит. Особенно меня веселит использование "просионистского антисемитизма" ("еврей-самоненвистник") Горовицем, для кодификации того, что "Бэннон - антисемит".

Date: 2016-11-23 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com
It depends. Когда речь идёт о жене цезаря нормально отношусь. Если циркулируемые цитаты Бэннона о Спенсере не выдуманы, то ассоциация весьма сильно воняет.

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Date: 2016-11-23 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com
"You went full yakov_a_jerkov, man. Never go full yakov_a_jerkov"

Date: 2016-11-23 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com
I'm sorry if you feel that way.

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