Pre-eclampsia
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ny_quantis a multi-system disorder specific to pregnancy, characterized by the new onset of high blood pressure and often a significant amount of protein in the urine or by the new onset of high blood pressure along with significant end-organ damage
Со слов нанимателя жены. Где-то в районе 20 недели беременности его жене стало плохо. Очень плохо. Настолько, что поехали в больницу, где ей диагностировали эту преклампсию. Им сказали, что если не сделать срочный аборт, то не выживут ни она ни ребенок. Срок был такой, что ребенок вне утробы сам бы не выжил, но возможно (тут я не все детали знаю) больше, чем разрешается в нашем штате когда нет опасности для жизни матери. Но тут опасность еще как была так что сделали и она потом родила со второй и третьей попытки.
Теперь представим себе мир победившего трампизма и консервативных "ценностей", где им удалось пропихнуть федеральный запрет на аборты после, скажем, 12 недель и без исключений. И конец был бы этой женщине. И мужик этот был бы вдовцом, а не мужем и отцом двоих детей.
Хочется всем избирателям Трампа пожелать, чтобы такое случилось в их семьях, но это было бы несправделиво так что я не буду. Только проголосовавшим лично. Но, я надеюсь, до этого в обозримое время не дойдет.
Со слов нанимателя жены. Где-то в районе 20 недели беременности его жене стало плохо. Очень плохо. Настолько, что поехали в больницу, где ей диагностировали эту преклампсию. Им сказали, что если не сделать срочный аборт, то не выживут ни она ни ребенок. Срок был такой, что ребенок вне утробы сам бы не выжил, но возможно (тут я не все детали знаю) больше, чем разрешается в нашем штате когда нет опасности для жизни матери. Но тут опасность еще как была так что сделали и она потом родила со второй и третьей попытки.
Теперь представим себе мир победившего трампизма и консервативных "ценностей", где им удалось пропихнуть федеральный запрет на аборты после, скажем, 12 недель и без исключений. И конец был бы этой женщине. И мужик этот был бы вдовцом, а не мужем и отцом двоих детей.
Хочется всем избирателям Трампа пожелать, чтобы такое случилось в их семьях, но это было бы несправделиво так что я не буду. Только проголосовавшим лично. Но, я надеюсь, до этого в обозримое время не дойдет.
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Date: 2024-11-20 08:03 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2024-11-20 09:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2024-11-20 09:49 pm (UTC)Strawman
Date: 2024-11-20 09:51 pm (UTC)Хотелось бы услышать, в каком из мракобесных штатов не разрешается делать аборт, если есть угроза здоровью матери?
Например, в этом обзоре: https://abcnews.go.com/US/state-state-breakdown-abortion-laws-2-years-after/story?id=111312220 мы видим что после отмены Roe v. Wade , образовалось 14 мракобесных штатов, в которых демократически избранные законодатели ввели полный запрет на аборты. Во ВСЕХ этих мракобесных шататах аборт разрешён, если беременность угрожает здоровью матери.
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Date: 2024-11-20 10:04 pm (UTC)Так что не надо переживать, никому не грозит закон о полном запрете.
Re: Strawman
Date: 2024-11-20 10:27 pm (UTC)Хорошо, что пока что исключения разрешены везде. Это слабое утешение для тех, кому придется рожать по воле демократически избранных законодателей, которым конечно виднее. Но изнасилование не входит в список исключений в 10 штатах. Так что товарищи на верном пути, недолго осталось.
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Date: 2024-11-20 10:28 pm (UTC)Закон пока что не грозит потому, что у демов >40 человек в Сенате. Но это пока.
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Date: 2024-11-20 10:56 pm (UTC)Словом, давайте подождем и посмотрим за что именно и кто именно голосует, причем не в пересказе масс медиа и других заинтересованных лиц.
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Date: 2024-11-20 11:02 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2024-11-21 12:11 am (UTC)давайте не сочинять про нигде и никогда
Death and Suffering: The Story Behind Ireland’s Abortion Ban (https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2022-06-27/the-story-behind-irelands-abortion-ban-and-its-reversal) and its Reversal (The death of Savita Halappanavar in an Irish hospital in 2012 after she was denied an abortion during a miscarriage. )
Texas Lawmakers Push for New Exceptions to State’s Strict Abortion Ban After the Deaths of Two Women
Investigations by ProPublica have found that at least four women, including two in Texas, died after they could not access timely reproductive care in states that ban abortion/ n Houston, Josseli Barnica died in September 2021, just days after the state’s six-week abortion ban went into effect. Barnica, 28, was miscarrying at 17 weeks, but doctors did not offer her the medical standard of care — to speed up labor or empty her uterus — for 40 hours, until after the fetal heartbeat had stopped. Her husband said she was told it would be a “crime” to intervene. This left her seriously exposed to infection, experts told ProPublica. Three days later, she died from an infection, leaving behind a young daughter.The doctors involved in Barnica’s care at HCA Houston Healthcare Northwest... In a statement,...said, “Our responsibility is to be in compliance with applicable state and federal laws and regulations,”
The lawmaker who wrote one of Texas’ recent abortion bans wrote an op-ed in the Houston Chronicle defending the current exceptions as “plenty clear (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-lawmakers-push-for-new-exceptions-to-state-s-strict-abortion-ban-after-the-deaths-of-two-women/ar-AA1uq05k?ocid=BingNewsSerp).” ... the medical emergency exceptions in Texas’ new abortion bans use the same language as abortion laws from the 1800s. “We did not want to risk confusing medical providers by changing the definition,” There is no state office that doctors can call to make sure their decisions in miscarriage cases do not violate the law. Texas’ abortion ban threatens up to 99 years in prison, $100,000 in fines and loss of medical license for doctors who provide abortions.
But more than 100 Texas OB-GYNs disagree with his position. In a public letter... they urged changes. “As OB-GYNs in Texas, we know firsthand how much these laws restrict our ability to provide our patients with quality, evidence-based care,”
Last year, a Dallas woman asked a court for approval to end her pregnancy because her fetus was not viable and she faced health risks if she carried it to term. Paxton fought to keep her pregnant, arguing that her doctor hadn’t proved her situation was an emergency, and threatened to prosecute anyone who helped her. The courts sided with him, and the woman traveled out of state for the abortion.
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Date: 2024-11-21 12:13 am (UTC)желаю вам лично столкнуться с таким "неполным запретом", и почувствовать радость от его работы через близкую вам женщину.😉
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Date: 2024-11-21 12:24 am (UTC)All state abortion bans currently in effect contain exceptions to “prevent the death” or “preserve the life” of the pregnant person. As explained in further detail in the section below, these exceptions may create difficulties for physicians, as it is unclear how much risk of death or how close to death a pregnant patient may need to be for the exception to apply and the determination is not up to the physician treating the pregnant patient. (https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/issue-brief/a-review-of-exceptions-in-state-abortions-bans-implications-for-the-provision-of-abortion-services/)
Most states with bans that contain a health exception permit abortion care when there is a serious risk of substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function. These exceptions are limited by the lack of specific clinical definitions of the conditions qualifying for the exception. Only the Arizona 15-week LMP (last menstrual period) limit explicitly defines the bodily functions that may be considered “major.” The other states that use this language in their bans do not define what constitutes a “major bodily function,” nor what constitutes a “substantial impairment” to a major bodily function. This vague language puts physicians providing care to pregnant people in a difficult situation should their patients need an abortion to treat a condition jeopardizing their health and can leave the determination of whether an abortion can be legally provided to lawyers for the institution in which the clinician practices. For instance, in South Carolina where the 6-week LMP abortion limit has a health exception, the law lists a couple of conditions that may fall under this exception, such as severe pre-eclampsia and uterine rupture, but with no further detail. Using this language as guidance, it would be difficult for physicians to know if a significant health issue would fall under the exception. The difficulties presented by the simultaneous vagueness and narrowness of the exceptions are exacerbated by the lack of deference given to clinicians’ medical judgment under these bans.
However, even if the terms in the exceptions were defined more clearly, they would still exclude many health conditions pregnant people face. In Georgia, for example, providers challenging the ban note that the exceptions do not permit abortion care when it is needed to prevent: “(1) substantial but reversible physical impairment of a major bodily function, (2) less than ‘substantial’ but irreversible physical impairment of a major bodily function, or (3) substantial and irreversible physical impairment of a bodily function that is not ‘major.’” A medical condition may still be a significant health event, yet not qualify under the exceptions, even if their limits were more clearly defined.
Re: Strawman
Date: 2024-11-21 12:27 am (UTC)> Но изнасилование не входит в список исключений в 10 штатах. Так что товарищи на верном пути, недолго осталось.
Как можно наблюдать, движение идёт как раз в обратном направлении. В Техасе, например, на пути к принятию H.B.257, вводящий исключения для жертв изнасилования и инцеста. В этом смысле, да, на верном пути.
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Date: 2024-11-21 12:29 am (UTC)Some states’ abortion laws specify that care for ectopic pregnancies and pregnancy loss is not criminalized in its statutes. Most states with these provisions in their bans allow for the removal of a dead fetus or embryo, but not for miscarriage care, generally. This means that pregnant people who are actively miscarrying may be denied care if there is still detectable fetal cardiac activity. There have already been reports of such situations in Texas and Louisiana. In Louisiana, for example, a pregnant woman went to the hospital after experiencing sharp pain and bleeding. She was informed her fetus had likely stopped growing a few weeks prior, as its size did not correspond to the length of her pregnancy, and that it had very faint cardiac activity. Despite the pain and the blood loss she was experiencing, she could not receive the regimen of mifepristone and misoprostol commonly prescribed to pregnant patients who are miscarrying to ensure that the pregnancy is safely expelled from the body completely in a timely manner, thereby decreasing the risk of sepsis and infection. Instead, she had to wait for the miscarriage to progress without medical intervention, which would have expedited the process and reduced her medical risk. In states where the abortion bans do not clarify that miscarriage care is not criminalized – even when there is still detectable cardiac activity – pregnant people may not be able to receive care to manage their pregnancy loss unless and until it becomes a medical emergency.In deciding whether or not to provide abortion care to preserve the health of a pregnant patient, physicians now face the risk of a jury or the state disagreeing with their judgment about the gravity of the health risk the pregnant person was experiencing, and as a result, face prison time, monetary fines, and loss of professional license
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zurawski_v._State_of_Texas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zurawski_v._State_of_Texas)
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Date: 2024-11-21 01:06 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2024-11-21 02:59 am (UTC)На сегодня у меня нет ни причин, ни поводов ему не верить.
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Date: 2024-11-21 03:02 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2024-11-21 03:08 am (UTC)RE: Re: Strawman
Date: 2024-11-21 04:32 am (UTC)ЗЫ я не сторонник каких либо запретов на абборты. Женщина должна сама решать что ей делать с ребенком до момента рождения. В то же время, у демократов были прекрасные года при Обаме, когда Сенат и Хаус были в их полном распоряжении. Они приняли какие то законы за абборты? Вот-вот, именно это.
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Date: 2024-11-21 04:57 am (UTC)Re: Strawman
Date: 2024-11-21 05:03 am (UTC)Ну посмотрим. Если вдруг примут, то останется 9. Только ведь ещё недавно их было 0. Такой вот верный путь.
Re: Strawman
Date: 2024-11-21 05:05 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2024-11-21 05:21 am (UTC)Я не вижу никаких причин верить, что наши скрепные мерзавцы чем-то лучше тех. Вопрос только в том, в какой степени они сумеют прибрать власть.
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Date: 2024-11-21 05:22 am (UTC)Re: Strawman
Date: 2024-11-21 05:25 am (UTC)Which countries don't make exceptions for rape?
ChatGPT said:
A number of countries have highly restrictive abortion laws and do not allow exceptions for rape, meaning abortion is entirely banned or permitted only in cases where the mother's life is at risk. These countries often reflect strong cultural, religious, or political opposition to abortion.
Countries Without Exceptions for Rape
Latin America:
El Salvador: Total abortion ban with no exceptions, including for rape, incest, or fetal anomalies. Women can face imprisonment for miscarriages misclassified as abortions.
Honduras: Strict ban on abortion under any circumstances, including rape or incest. Emergency contraception is also banned.
Nicaragua: Abortion is entirely illegal, with no exceptions for rape or incest.
Africa:
Madagascar: Abortion is completely illegal, with no exceptions for rape or other circumstances.
Senegal: Strict prohibition on abortion, with no exceptions for rape or incest. Women and doctors can face criminal penalties.
Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC): Abortion laws are highly restrictive, and exceptions for rape are not explicitly recognized.
Sierra Leone: While there has been movement toward liberalizing laws, abortion remains prohibited without exceptions for rape.
Asia:
Philippines: Abortion is illegal under all circumstances, including rape, incest, or threats to the mother's health. Women and providers face criminal penalties.
Laos: Strict abortion laws with no exceptions for rape.
Iraq: Abortion is prohibited except to save the life of the mother, with no exceptions for rape or incest.
Middle East:
Syria: Abortion is illegal except to save the life of the mother; no exceptions for rape.
Palestine (Gaza and West Bank): Abortion laws are highly restrictive, with no allowances for rape or incest.
Europe:
Malta: Abortion is entirely illegal, though there is ongoing debate about introducing exceptions for cases like rape or risks to the mother's health.