Turley defends Barr
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ny_quant... both the White House and the Justice Department quickly stated that there was no communication between Trump and Barr regarding the case and that the decision to withdraw the recommendation was made previously. If true, Trump showed his uncanny ability to undermine his own administration and then magnified that damage with a type of “atta boy” for Barr after the recommendation was withdrawn.
There are good faith reasons to question a Justice Department process that led to the resignation of multiple prosecutors after the lowering of a recommended sentence for a friend of the president. There also stands a legitimate question of why it was necessary to intervene in this particular case over a sentencing recommendation. However, there are reasons to be skeptical of the portrayals of a Justice Department commissariat slavishly carrying out orders by the president.
None of this means that there was no political interference or that there should not be an investigation. There are serious credible concerns to be investigated, and Barr has agreed to appear before Congress to answer those questions. However, the critics have shown the very same disregard for the facts, the merits, and the process that they ascribe to Barr.
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/483440-in-defense-of-william-barr
Заодно он напомнил забытый мной эпизод с Обамой и Холдером:
It is not unprecedented for Main Justice to overrule local prosecutors. For example, in 2008 when President Obama was first running for the White House, prosecutors wanted to bring charges against Black Panthers who stood in front of polling places brandishing weapons. Attorney General Eric Holder and the Justice Department overruled them, despite a rather widespread view that the men were trying to intimidate voters. There were no calls to impeach or incarcerate Holder...
Наверное это было совсем другое дело.
There are good faith reasons to question a Justice Department process that led to the resignation of multiple prosecutors after the lowering of a recommended sentence for a friend of the president. There also stands a legitimate question of why it was necessary to intervene in this particular case over a sentencing recommendation. However, there are reasons to be skeptical of the portrayals of a Justice Department commissariat slavishly carrying out orders by the president.
None of this means that there was no political interference or that there should not be an investigation. There are serious credible concerns to be investigated, and Barr has agreed to appear before Congress to answer those questions. However, the critics have shown the very same disregard for the facts, the merits, and the process that they ascribe to Barr.
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/483440-in-defense-of-william-barr
Заодно он напомнил забытый мной эпизод с Обамой и Холдером:
It is not unprecedented for Main Justice to overrule local prosecutors. For example, in 2008 when President Obama was first running for the White House, prosecutors wanted to bring charges against Black Panthers who stood in front of polling places brandishing weapons. Attorney General Eric Holder and the Justice Department overruled them, despite a rather widespread view that the men were trying to intimidate voters. There were no calls to impeach or incarcerate Holder...
Наверное это было совсем другое дело.
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Date: 2020-02-20 06:23 pm (UTC)Это ж все доступная, причем моментально, информация. Непонятно, зачем, сидя перед компьютером, пытаться вспомнить то, что вы слышали 12 лет назад.
как сказал бы Арбат, "это показывает, что левые знают про оружие и Вторую поправку", и был бы прав
Это вообще непонятно о чем. При чем тут знание об оружии?
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Date: 2020-02-20 07:41 pm (UTC)"Minister King Samir Shabazz carried a billy club, and is reported to have pointed it at voters while both men shouted racial slurs, including phrases such as "white devil" and "you're about to be ruled by the black man, cracker.""
а то, что я слышал 12 лет назад, пардон, было не непосредственно оттуда, а отсюда, и да, не пел, а просто говорил, запамятовал
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPH0a3oYspg
> При чем тут знание об оружии?
в данном случае "про Вторую поправку"
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Date: 2020-02-20 07:46 pm (UTC)Так я это знаю все. Я ж говорю, я с ny_quant обсуждал этот случай и в 2008 году, по горячим следам, и уже в трамповское время.
в данном случае "про Вторую поправку"
А какое знание или незнание про вторую поправку показал мой комментарий?
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Date: 2020-02-20 07:53 pm (UTC)впрочем, никто там их криминально наказывать не собирался, или хотя бы дубинку конфисковать
дело изначально было гражданским,
впрочем, опять же, вы это все не хуже меня знаете (или лучше)