Date: 2017-07-20 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nlothik.livejournal.com
> who cares tenure 0 is more than twice yours

So what? Пиписьками меряться -- это не ко мне.

Я живу около Бирмингема, с конца 90х.

> and some of us have nothing to hide. i don't. do you?

That's not the point.

The point is that nobody has the right to put parts of the Constitution on hold. And we do have a right to "be secure in our persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures". And I'm not willing to let go of that just because somebody is too lazy to do some real police work.

> re same sex marriage - well, yes, bad,

So I need not explain my disdain for that character any further.

> he IS a evangelical

Yes he is an evangelical; just one more reason not to like him...

> Bentley - what do you think of him, eh?

Bentley is a self-righteous hypocrite. He campaigned on being a "real Christian" and yeah, well, that was so Christian of him to cheat on his own wife while on taxpayers' dime.

Having said that, he did do some good things for the manufacturing in our state.

And yeah, other Alabama politicians don't really have a stellar record either. I think at least half of them have been involved in litigation regarding some corruption charges, and a few even landed in jail (like our former governor Siegelman).

pipiskes i disagree ;-)

Date: 2017-07-20 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
having seen this ocuntry evolve from mid70s to now is a privilege and a gift. so my 43 years are .. a little longer and more ebuchi than your 20. sorry. true if this were thailand, too.


Birmingham is pretty progressive, no? the uni, etc.


as to nothing to hide - in a way, you are right. besides, someone needs to show me that extra surveillance actually prevented terror acts. but if they do show me that - you are wrong.


re same sex marriage we are on the same page, so let's just file it. and people do get married all over the South, anyway.


listen dear. i don't mean it badly, i am prolly older than you by the same 23 years. so listen dear.

this country - the south anyway - was built by evangelicals, the rest by puritans, quackers, lutherans, methodists.
so relax and enjoy the fruits of their labor. incl. sessions.



Bentley is an asshole. we agreed there. recently he climed he is the best governor AL ever had. ahahah, said the disgusted electorate. but.. let him. he has been humiliated and made notorious not for what he had done for the state but for teh gore and corruption. he goes down withna bang he deserves...

as to corruption, AL is not as bad as SC< VA, and of course nobody can top IL, NY, MA...


what keeps you in AL? how do you like B-ham?


Re: pipiskes i disagree ;-)

Date: 2017-07-20 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nlothik.livejournal.com
За 20 лет моей жизни здесь никто, даже самые красношеие реднеки, никогда, ни при каких обстоятельствах не попрекали меня происхождением и не позволяли себе вольности типа покровительственного ко мне отношения из-за моего иммигрантского статуса.

Вы первая. Я как-то даже не ожидал и немного ошалел.

Что, увы, приводит меня к неприятному выводу, что за 40+ лет американкой вы так и не стали. Во всяком случае, в этом отношении.

Что до повсеместного прослушивания граждан без санкций судьи:

"FBI agents can’t point to any major terrorism cases they’ve cracked thanks to the key snooping powers in the Patriot Act, the Justice Department’s inspector general said in a report Thursday that could complicate efforts to keep key parts of the law operating."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may/21/fbi-admits-patriot-act-snooping-powers-didnt-crack/

Пару каких-то мелких уродов поймали, а более крупные теракты типа бостонских бомбистов, уродов из Сан-Бернардино или расстрела гей-дискотеки в Орландо -- упс.

Подтирание Конституцией вместо того, чтобы улучшить работу органов правопорядка -- это не те действия, которые я бы хотел, чтобы совершала моя страна.

Что до того, кто построил страну, то а) можно подумать, что атеисты бы справились хуже, и б) Юг был построен рабами и рабовладельцами. Мне предлагается любить рабовладельческую систему? Нет, спасибо.

Что до штата Алабама, то те же однополые браки стали в нём (не везде, но в большинстве округов) легальными ещё до решения Obergefell v. Hodges. Мы не были последними в списке штатов, принявших соответствующее законодательство. Хотя отдельные придурки вроде нашего Роя Мура ставили палки в колёса. Так что нормальных людей здесь много, ну, а евангелики потихоньку отомрут, как тупиковая ветвь эволюции. А Сешшенз -- не лучший представитель нашего штата.

Что держит? Низкие цены на землю, семейные связи, отсутствие зимы, хорошая охота, рыбалка.

????

Date: 2017-07-20 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
а чего покровительственного в том чтобы сказать что 43 года опыта больше чем 20? вы к тому же уже человеком приехали а я личинкой аутичной. правда я английский знала с детства.

Re: ????

Date: 2017-07-20 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nlothik.livejournal.com
> а чего покровительственного

"новое эмигранто в Алабамию"

Perhaps to you that does not sound like you are patronizing. To me, it does.

Re: ????

Date: 2017-07-20 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
мой русский очень плох. я плохо воспринимаю вои же оттенки на русском. сорри. не имелось в виду обидеть ну никак.

Re: ????

Date: 2017-07-20 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nlothik.livejournal.com
ОК

Re: ????

Date: 2017-07-20 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com
For example, calling a stranger "dear" is patronizing.

Re: ????

Date: 2017-07-20 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
what if i like him? i am not calling YOU dear. ;-)

Re: pipiskes i disagree ;-)

Date: 2017-07-20 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
хорошая охота, рыбалка."""""





из моего ограниченного очень опыта юга, "гулять негде". много народу везде, далеко ехать до парков, а парки забиты. может я постарела ь я выросла в северной новой англии, там тоже на всяких аппал. тропах было много народу, но сейчас я хочу свою гору и свой залив :( - для меня юг перенаселен, хоть едь обратно на дикий запад.

Re: pipiskes i disagree ;-)

Date: 2017-07-20 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nlothik.livejournal.com
Здрасьте -- "гулять негде".

Bankhead National Forest. 30 миль на 25 миль, хоть угуляйся.

Re: pipiskes i disagree ;-)

Date: 2017-07-20 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
exactly my point. two hours of driving. i am majorly spoiled, i am.. now paying for it.

used to live in the foothills of Wasatch range. hike from home anywhere... and used to have a lakehouse in the mountains on a lake, on foot to an obscure state park connected to Sunapee by trails..

Re: pipiskes i disagree ;-)

Date: 2017-07-20 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
you didn;t answer me re yogurt!! :-)))

Re: pipiskes i disagree ;-)

Date: 2017-07-20 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nlothik.livejournal.com
I just don't like to discuss the contents of my journal in somebody else's blog.

Re: pipiskes i disagree ;-)

Date: 2017-07-20 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
sorry, i was just curious about you. personally, i have no "off-topic" rules in my blog, and rely on the host to tell me if i am flooding him with irrelevant info, and then i stop. come to think of it, i would not return to a blog where i was censored for an off-topic. i find such blogs unworthy of my presence. :-)


sometimes i do ask someone to shut up (just had) because he is a nudnik equal to me, and our badminton was becoming toxically boring.

tell me just one thing if you don't mind - 20 years in the South, do you feel a part of it or a stranger? i am told that newcomers of any race, yankees especially, do not ever become welcome, and what little i read of southern literature tells me the same.

i don't need a welcoming party, we are antisocial to a degree, but i am used to feeling at home basically anywhere in teh US. in the South, I do not. exceopt maybe North Carolina, the least southern of southern states. i don't mean Florida.

so, if you don't mind - do you feel you have grown into being "them" and "they" embraced you? i find "them" insular in the extreme I had not seen yet, and I lived or/and have family in the East, NE, Wild West, Kali, Montana, Oregon, etc, etc.

Re: pipiskes i disagree ;-)

Date: 2017-07-20 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nlothik.livejournal.com
To me, the South is home. And why wouldn't it be? I moved here when I was 19; so I pretty much grew up here, got my degrees from UAB, got married here, had kids here. I've been up North and out West, but I didn't really ever feel like I wanted to stay.

Are there some things that irritate me about the South? Of course. But not enough to make me want to move.

I like the South, I like Southern culture, people, and food. Wish I could live in an antebellum-style house! Perhaps when I decide to build my next home ;) I may not like the Bham area... even though it's undergoing a fairly active gentrification, it's still a bit dumpy. If I ever do move, I'd consider moving to Huntsville. I think Southerners in general are pretty decent people, very friendly. Especially older black ladies and gentlemen.

As far as being "them", I'm not sure how to answer that question. I've been a non-conformist all my life. I just hang out with other weirdos (and I don't mean other immigrants) and we get along just fine.

Re: pipiskes i disagree ;-)

Date: 2017-07-20 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
Tx! interesting.

RE: Re: pipiskes i disagree ;-)

Date: 2017-07-20 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com
I don't have almost any rules here. Feel free to discuss whatever you want.

Btw, she actually does like you ;)

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