Поздравляем Руди Джулиани совравши

[ny_quant]

Rudolph W. Giuliani has conceded that while acting as a lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump, he made false statements by asserting that two Georgia election workers had mishandled ballots while counting votes in Atlanta during the 2020 election.

The concession by Mr. Giuliani came in court papers filed on Tuesday night as part of a defamation lawsuit that the two workers, Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss, had brought against him in Federal District Court in Washington in December 2021.

The suit accused Mr. Giuliani and others of promoting a video that purported to show Ms. Freeman and Ms. Moss — who are mother and daughter — of manipulating ballots while working at the State Farm Arena for the Fulton County Board of Elections.

Mr. Giuliani ... admitted that his statements were “actionable” and “false” and that he no longer disputed the “factual elements of liability” the election workers had raised in their suit.

The two women had originally sued other defendants, including the One America News Network and some of its top officials, but ultimately settled the case against everyone except Mr. Giuliani.

Mr. Trump invoked Ms. Freeman’s name 18 times during a phone call with Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, on Jan. 2, 2021. In the call, Mr. Trump asked Mr. Raffensperger to help him “find” 11,800 votes — enough to swing the results in Georgia

A few weeks earlier, Mr. Giuliani sat for a voluntary interview with prosecutors working for the special counsel, Jack Smith, answering questions about, among other things, a plan to create fake slates of pro-Trump electors in key swing states that Mr. Biden had won. And he could face charges in an investigation, led by the district attorney in Fulton County, into efforts to reverse Mr. Trump’s 2020 loss in Georgia.


Но выборы у Трампа, конечно, все равно украли. Кого из деплораблей волнуют эти мелкие детали?

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[olaff67.livejournal.com]

[olaff67.livejournal.com]

Ведь все же видели своими глазами что творилось на избирательных участках!
Ну и Трамп за полгода предупредил же.

[nlothik.livejournal.com]

> Но выборы у Трампа, конечно, все равно украли.

Да какая вообще разница -- украли или не украли?

Даже если бы и украли, для таких случаев есть соответствующая процедура. И призывание к мятежу ею не является.

[yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com]

Возможно, вы, в отличие от меня, не являетесь подписчиком Джулиани в Твиттере, и поэтому не знаете, что, согласно Джулиани, никакого вранья он не признавал, что бы там ни было написано в legal paperwork.

Например:

In this age of FAKE NEWS you cannot correct all falsehoods. But I was disappointed to see that the usually reliable @HowardKurtz repeated the fake news saying that I admitted making false statements. The false story is based on a stipulation not admitting the truth of the…

— Rudy W. Giuliani (@RudyGiuliani) July 30, 2023

[ny-quant.livejournal.com]

Это точно, я на политику не подписываюсь.

So he is conceding but not admitting. Got it.

[ny-quant.livejournal.com]

Это на них тоже не действует, т.к. он призывал не к мятежу, а чему-то дугому.

[yakov-a-jerkov.livejournal.com]

Я даже прочитал этот написанный его адвокатами документ. Там черным по белому написано, что да, Джулиани не спорит с тем, что он врал. Возможно в строгом юридическом смысле это действительно отличается от "признает, что соврал", не знаю.

Джулиани и компания сделали этих мать с дочерью лицом "кражи выборов", мне в журнале видео с ними постили. Они потом должны были прятаться: https://abcnews.go.com/US/mother-daughter-election-workers-describe-lived-trump-backed/story?id=92500318

[genka8.livejournal.com]

Видимо те же юридические тонкости, как разница между guilty и no contest.

[ny-quant.livejournal.com]

Вспомнил шутку 30-летней давности:

Mayor Giuliani didn't say "fuck you!", he said "up yours!"