Please please don't be offended, but what you и огромное большинство родителей, которые переплачивает за школы и колледжи are displaying is called "coastal fallacy". a.k.a. East Coast Snobbery, since it is more prominent on your crust of the american pie. in the middle of the pie, where the filling is, the soul of america, really, this elite education can be a bug, not a feature, and an impediment to both employment and social acceptance. kind of reverse snobbery.
i have experienced it personally, and other people have. i could give you examples, if you are curious.
even at a high level of professional achievement, saying "i trained at" or with "so and so" can be a liability. my former (thanks heavens, former) section leader hated me from the start. for where i trained. and tried to trample me under, more or less successfully, to humiliate me as much as possible "Molly, this is not mayo and i don't want to hear about mayo again". and i did not mean to boast, i was trying to correct things that i thought were done wrong (having come from a much smaller section where i was in charge of the program and could actually influence how things were done).
elite education is overpriced and overvalued by the coastals :-) like yourself and your circle. i can find you more studies showing correlation of elite colleges ONLY with careers in politics, not even finance. why do you think i know so many inside info bytes about bush Jr's and obama's WH? because a good dozen of my classmates that i know well ( and probably hundreds more that i did not know) went to washington, and gossip on alumni sites, of course very much postfactum. if you want your daughters to be in SCOTUS then yes, send them to p-ton ( a classic SCOTUS fount) or yale (a close 2nd).
but if you want them to be happy and fulfilled other than that - do not worry about ivies. the advantage, if any, is minimal. there is PLENTY of objective data to that effect.
re Rutgers. this is a sad thing that it has an undeservedly bad reputation in NJ. perhaps it is easier to get in for state residents, or/and cheaper for them.
even back when i was in NJ Rutgers had a good rep for physics particularly, for engineering, chemistry. as all such schools it is "patchy", piecewise continuous. but "solid", really.
it does not offer "liberal education" on the same level as its neighbor, no. but who needs that, really.
it is a product of the past and has rotted: Cornell West type of mentors are now dominating the discourse. yech, blech, and this is not racism.
"liberal education" is dead. partly thanks to SJWs.
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in the middle of the pie, where the filling is, the soul of america, really, this elite education can be a bug, not a feature, and an impediment to both employment and social acceptance. kind of reverse snobbery.
i have experienced it personally, and other people have. i could give you examples, if you are curious.
even at a high level of professional achievement, saying "i trained at" or with "so and so" can be a liability. my former (thanks heavens, former) section leader hated me from the start. for where i trained. and tried to trample me under, more or less successfully, to humiliate me as much as possible "Molly, this is not mayo and i don't want to hear about mayo again". and i did not mean to boast, i was trying to correct things that i thought were done wrong (having come from a much smaller section where i was in charge of the program and could actually influence how things were done).
elite education is overpriced and overvalued by the coastals :-) like yourself and your circle. i can find you more studies showing correlation of elite colleges ONLY with careers in politics, not even finance.
why do you think i know so many inside info bytes about bush Jr's and obama's WH? because a good dozen of my classmates that i know well ( and probably hundreds more that i did not know) went to washington, and gossip on alumni sites, of course very much postfactum. if you want your daughters to be in SCOTUS then yes, send them to p-ton ( a classic SCOTUS fount) or yale (a close 2nd).
but if you want them to be happy and fulfilled other than that - do not worry about ivies. the advantage, if any, is minimal. there is PLENTY of objective data to that effect.
re Rutgers. this is a sad thing that it has an undeservedly bad reputation in NJ. perhaps it is easier to get in for state residents, or/and cheaper for them.
even back when i was in NJ Rutgers had a good rep for physics particularly, for engineering, chemistry.
as all such schools it is "patchy", piecewise continuous. but "solid", really.
it does not offer "liberal education" on the same level as its neighbor, no.
but who needs that, really.
it is a product of the past and has rotted: Cornell West type of mentors are now dominating the discourse. yech, blech, and this is not racism.
"liberal education" is dead. partly thanks to SJWs.